Title:Sustainable Development Goals and the New Urban Agenda
در اکتبر ۲۰۱۷، بخش بینالمللی APA، بخش اورگان APA و ISOCARP کنفرانس مشترکی را در مورد شهرهای هوشمند برگزار کردند – موضوعی مهم برای شهرهای روستایی و مراکز بزرگ بینالمللی. این بحث میزگرد جنبه های بی شماری از اهداف توسعه پایدار سازمان ملل و دستور کار شهری جدید را بررسی می کند، از جمله اینکه فرآیند اجرا چگونه کار می کند و چگونه شهرهای ایالات متحده تحت تأثیر قرار می گیرند. آیا علاقه مند به کسب اطلاعات بیشتر از کنفرانس هستید؟ “رهنمودهای بین المللی برنامه ریزی شهری و سرزمینی” را تماشا کنید: https://youtu.be/6y52SliMHY4
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قسمتی از متن فیلم: I’m tim van i’m the chair of the APA international division and we’re sponsoring this session on the development and implementation of the sustainable goals by UN and other organizations such as our own APA ISIL Park which is a co-sponsor of this conference and thanks insights and the planners network particularly us can I
Ask hands are you oh APA members based here in Oregon okay most of you and some of you are ISO card members coming from overseas okay yeah good mix I think it’s like a three to one ratio at the conference overall something like that so we’re gonna look at the sustainable
Development goals if you don’t mind I’m going to use the acronym SDGs so I’ll slip up less often and new urban agenda which is sustainable development goal number 11 and I’ll call that anyway if you don’t mind and we’re going to look at its application across different geographic levels and across different
Sectors so I’m the moderator and I will stand up last to give a talk and then we have three other speakers they’re all fantastic I’ve heard them speak before you’re not going to be disappointed first off we’ll be shivering now Rhonda Suri she’s vice president of AIESEC art for technical assistance and projects
And she’s also a coordinator for urban planning and design branch at the UN habitat and she’s going to talk about un habitats role and initiatives regarding the sustainable development goals that was their responsibility and I think she’s going to end up talking a bit about how UN habitat and other UN agencies are
Organized for the implementation and then next up will be Gregg Scruggs here in the red shirt he is a senior correspondent with city scope magazine and he will be covering SDGs implementation in US cities including a project where it’s being piloted in New York City Baltimore in San Jose
California and then Andrew Potts who’s a partner in Nixon Peabody which is a law firm is going to speak on behalf of yakumo’s again the Institute for for monuments and sites and he’s going to talk about global efforts to leverage cultural heritage for resilience and how
To localize a major SDG number 11 which contains the new urban agenda and the six heritage related nua provisions then I’m going to get up again and talk about APA you know what is it that APA is doing what can you as a PA planners do in terms of implementing the SDGs so
Without further delay thank you good morning it’s a pleasure to be here thank you Tim for asking me to come and to come and speak at this session I must say here that I I speak largely on on behalf of you in habitat as in my capacity as coordinator of the
Urban planning and design branch of the agency based in Nairobi yes I’m also vice president of ISO card for a few more hours till we have our bureau meeting this evening and then there’s a turnover of the executive companies I’m stepping down after six years on the on
The executive committee which is quite enough I think okay so I’m going to talk about the implementation of the SDGs and new urban agenda you have been sort of a little bit overdosed on the SDGs and new urban agenda since this started which is good I don’t think we talked about it
Enough in professional gatherings but just to just to say that you know step back a little bit and maybe Greg will pick up on some of this because he was covering a lot of these international processes this is what cities not many many many cities that the world looks
Like crowded busy and unsustainable not resilient to disasters not prepared for disasters and with a lot of migrants with a lot of inequality with poor quality housing and infrastructure etc so when this when the discussion around stainable Development Goals started that’s a very big there was a big big
Push by the urban community to say that look we need to acknowledge that urban is not just context urban is a complex issue by itself organization is something that’s not going to go away and we need a goal that is one of the one of the sustainable development goals
That focuses on urban areas per se the other side said no we you know Herman is important that well mainstream it through all the other sustainable development goals both are both are important but we did feel that mainstreaming it would you know there’s always a little bit of loss of focus
When you mainstream something it’s great but you know where is the concentrated attention on our missions are men challenges urban priorities and and and I’ve been potential where is the attention to actually build up on all the potential for sustainable development for inclusion and for economic growth that urban areas offer
So we got the urban STG which is the SDG 11 or the urban goal is it gets called a different fora and every sustainable development goal has a set of targets associated with it these were the targets of the urban SDG so there are seven I’m sorry
So yeah it’s not very readable sorry about that so the SDG lemonis make cities and human settlements inclusive safe resilient and sustainable it’s got seven targets dealing with these things and I’m sure everybody in this room will find themselves and their work in one of these little circles but you work and
How sequel they work on urban renewal whether you work in public space mobility energy transport cultural heritage you know in disaster etc so and the little set of ovals on the side are what call the means of implementation targets which is you cannot get to all of that
Without addressing all of these these are the processes you need to put in place in order to achieve those goals and those targets so you have to have national and regional development planning you’ve got to have integrated policymaking particular if a disasterous and you’ve got to have policies related
To sustainable resilient buildings we haven’t had that kind of attention on urban issues of the problems and priorities in the last you know 50 years so this was a this was a really big achievement but then people said well now we’ve got the urban code now Bucharest eg lemon we’ve gotta focus why
Do we need now something more and this is so this was the next level of debate and we had habitat 3 coming up which was the third in a series of you know conferences that happen every 20 years the first one happened with Mike over led to the establishment of the UN
Centre for human settlements which is now in habitat the second one happened in Istanbul in 1996 and led to something called habitat agenda which I did a lot of professionals over the last 20 years and they work globally and then people said no I do we really need a habitat 3
Because now we have the SDG 11 and the point was that the STG 11 just like every other sustainable development goal was something that is highly compressed and that was like a lowest common denominator you know the stuff that you see there is stuff that everybody can
Identify with but there’s a lot of nuance and there’s a lot of detail that there’s a lot of complexity they lost in it so they said no we need something that details them out a little bit more and that’s where we came to the new arena Genda how many of you had
Actually heard about the new urban agenda before you walked into this conference okay that’s not bad okay how many of you have actually gone through it even if you just get me through it okay I think it’s important that that we all go through it because it has really
Like I said with the SD 11 you will find yourself in it you will find your work in it you will find your city in it you will find your context in it the new one-man agenda is really a universal agenda it is not only for the developed countries all all the developing
Countries or countries and cities in crisis or you know those recovery from disaster it is for everybody who is interested in in cities I used to teach a class of urban designers and the first day I walked in and I said you know what
You want to do when you grow up and they said each one of them 20 kids in my class each one is oh I want to sell my own architectural design from great you know it’s wonderful you know and what kind of buildings and we talked a little bit about it and I
Said you know you know every single project that you do just remember that you will be single-handedly responsible for climate change whether to mitigate it or to exacerbate it order in some and then really what’s to climate change but really with me and it was interesting these were young kids I’m not saying
That you know I’m not I’m not saying that it’s it’s right or wrong but it tells you that not a lot of young people get out of planning school get out of designs without having the larger perspective and when I started introducing that some reason this oh yeah well we didn’t think
Of it this way and I think it’s important that we start looking at the larger perspective because our problems don’t start and end at our and our buildings and our sites and our communities and the numeron agenda has you know has some of these things are absolutely central to it housing
Planning land you know issues of formality and informality growing issues of safety and security in cities and by that I just don’t mean you know terrorist attacks but really just crying traffic accidents road accidents risk from building collapses risk from you know natural and man-made disaster so a
Lot of that a very strong and welcomed emphasis on issues of gender and concerns of young people and use in cities then that we pushed an arm is part of civil society then from ice apartment from other other civil society formations we pushed very hard that you know you have to mainstream and
Institutionalize participation and consultation in this agenda because otherwise it becomes an optional extra rate I mean I think Oregon and continent is a is a great example of how participation is institutionalized from a very early stage from what I’ve understood but it’s not it’s not the scenario everywhere else in the world
Participation is an add-on it’s a box you take in many places and we want it that you know in the implementation of the new urban agenda the agenda itself should be an exemplar of how you know participation can be institutionalized only then we can preach you know into
The world that you should do participate your planning and of course you’ve heard you’ve heard Rick yesterday you heard some of us say this before there are there are lots of substantive reference – planning in the new urban agenda planning is really back in VOC planning is at the center stage of the
International development discussion particularly the sustainable urban development discussion it’s not it did not happen by accident it happened because of the trajectory we’ve adopted over the last 10 years particularly the world urban form in Vancouver but the global planners network was formed very much you know with the EPA’s involvement in the
Canadian Institute of planners and ISO carp and several others and and conscious push to bring back you know the discussion to planning and planning as an instrument to you know to bring divergent views together to reconcile differences to look at a future visioning without you know and and to
Break away from the old mold of planning which was you know sort of very stereotyped into a long-drawn process I would date it’s slow an obstacle to development etc so that that has really culminated in this in this place now that the new urban agenda has a very
Central focus on planning and this is really if you have a chance to look at it the you know right from the beginning way to talk with transformative commitments for sustainable urbanization all the way to the end where you talk about the implementation you know references to planning are sort
Of woven through the text and there is a section with 30 paragraphs that focuses only on urban planning in management this is especially for those of us who work in the Indian in this realm this is a big deal I want to move on now just as
An example really to talk about what your habitat is doing for the implementation of the new this is not a this is not an advertisement but this is just to give you this is just to provoke some interest and some thinking around what you can do was as people as
Professionals as organizations as you know as as advocates as teachers as researchers for the implementation of the new open agenda even habitat has defined what a constant action framework for the implementation of the new urban agenda just to the end to the alphabet soup it’s a fin well one more acronym
Which is pretty really difficult to to make sense of I say and its underpinned by three core principles you know inclusion innovation and innovation I think you can find some of them here particularly in Oregon but in many parts of the world you can and and it has five
Core category isn’t the reason why we have these five categories is not just to rehash new agenda but to say that look we kind of everything none of us in this room can claim to do everything or you know have the capacity to do everything that’s listed in your agenda so let’s
Identify our entry points let’s identify priorities even though you and habitat is responsible for the overall coordination and leading the implementation but still I think we conscious of our capacities are you saying we need to start with some finite set of areas that we need to work on
Rather than this in finite universe of sustainable Urban Development and these are the five categories of actions or priority areas that we we’ve identified starting from sort of Moreh framing approach and the national urban policies we talked about it and on the sessions yesterday 100 countries has initiated the process of prepare
National level policies or in some cases look at the United States as a federal system or India or other parts as you know provincial urban policy state-level urban policies this is important because it sets the the overall spatial framework it sets it lays out the jurisdictional issues it you know
Proposes a pattern of settlements etc then we talk about three pillars what we call three-legged approach planning and design legislation and Finance but you cannot you cannot have urban development without all three you cannot have one or the other it’s not a choice and finally looking at your implementation and this
Is roughly what I mean you have a copy of this presentation I don’t want to go through it but this is roughly the kinds of issues that each of these categories deals with so this is this is our thinking around the implementation process of the urban agenda and we
Believe that it needs to be accompanied by a whole lot of capacity building a whole lot of orientation lots of indicators guidance tools examples of good practice these are not things that you know just come to us you put it down on a piece of paper and you start
Implementing them tomorrow it doesn’t happen like that there’s a low whole lot of other stuff that needs to accompany to make it a reality let me finally come to what we see as the role of urban professionals in this process and not just urban planners certainly there’s there’s a much larger community out
There the sociologists the economists the surveyors the plan as the engineers civil engineers architects of there’s a whole community of other professionals that we want to work with and apart from doing what you do in your day job whatever you do I think it’s important that we see ourselves as
Advocates that we see ourselves as people who hold our governments to account on some of these issues well you went there you signed up to these goals you co-created these documents it’s not that the US come into the Indian government the Chinese government was not involved in you know so you can’t
Come back home and disowned them and say oh really we don’t do SDGs or we don’t do you know trying to change a Paris agreement or we don’t do the Sendai framework for disasters no we do we were part of co-creating these frameworks setting it’s important that as professionals
Work in this realm who work in in public interest we hold out the means to account over what they’ve committed to in Quito and in the SDGs at the same time I think if whether we work in the public center or we work in in the private sector I think it’s obligatory
For us to support our local authorities in whatever way we can through research through projects so you know various kinds of actions I think it’s also incumbent upon us to demand reform as an active civil society and then to support reform very often we demand it but when
We see if we don’t like it and then we may back off so I think that’s that’s a problem that number of governments faces well and of course building up and sharing knowledge what we do is really not a small brand you know it will be interesting for other people to know how
You’re solving your profits whether you’re in Portland or them Seattle or in Washington or New York or in Delhi or Mumbai if they maybe never settings but I think the lessons would be very very important to share and the knowledge would be important to share and I think
Anything that we do in terms of innovative approaches and we need to encourage more innovation and we need to encourage more scale number of innovation we the support scaling up of innovation we don’t do that very often a pilot remains a pilot for 20 years a pilot project and then it’s that what’s
The point you know it’s just doing the same little thing and I think we need to do a lot more on data you heard Cynthia say that yesterday I that was one of the points I took away from her speech need to do a lot more monitoring and data on data collection
Because cities don’t have enough data national governments don’t have the right kind of data they need for the right kind of policy allocation and I think planners have a crucial role urban professionals generally but planners particularly have crucial role there and I think we as I said we need to continue
To me champions and advocates of a larger international agenda because we live in an increasingly interconnected and complex and difficult world thank you [Applause] good morning so I’m Gregory I am a planner and journalist planning background American Institute of Certified planners but working in the media to write about
Planning issues with city scope which is a nonprofit media outlet covering global trends and cities and we have been focusing quite a bit on the implications of the United Nations suite of global agreements like the sustainable development goals and the Paris agreement on climate change what do they
Mean for cities so we have been following from a journalistic perspective and that’s the one that I’ll be presenting today not not one where I’ve been working on behalf of any of the cities I’ll be speaking about but rather observing and and reporting on and trying to understand how they are
Making this giant global agreement the sustainable development goals 17 very lofty objectives to see a future where we have no poverty where we have climate change nipped in the bud where there is no hunger you know these really ambitious goals how do we make them relevant for cities for a place like
Portland for example where we’re standing right now and and in more more to the point at an interesting time in US politics where there is increasing resistance if not hostility to these kinds of international ambitions so I want to start off with a national index here which is a project by the UN
Sustainable development Solutions Network SDS n if there’s one four-letter acronym you take home today if you’re interested in this topic I highly recommend SDS n they were by the United Nations to serve as a technical expert group on all things sustainable development and they are based in New York housed at Columbia
University so while they have a global purview they are particularly interested in supporting domestic implementation of the sustainable development goals and they took undertook a rather interesting exercise where they they took all 17 goals in using best available data sources for metropolitan statistical areas MSA is which is how we break
Things down at the sub-national level in the US census national data collection in the US and they marked everybody with a score from 0 to 100 as a percentage of how close are you to achieving on all of the sustainable development goals now these are color-coded so I realize it doesn’t
Give you the exact numbers I have some bad news for the portlanders in the room you are not number 1 or number 2 or number 3 which is actually where I live up in Seattle Bellevue Tacoma and I say you came at number 10 not bad better
Than a lot of places in the country and number 1 by the way was the San Jose Sunnyvale Santa Clara MSA in California and number two was Provo Orem Utah so I’m not going to go through the entirety of their statistical measurements but I certainly encourage you to take a look
At this one place and this is a summary of the main findings so you’ll just see the the highest or the ones that I mentioned the lowest of some of our Rust Belt places like Cleveland and Detroit as well as Baton Rouge in the deep south
And you know looking at some of the poverty and health statistics that came up as part of their measurement but I wanted to compare two in particular on the left is no poverty so that’s goal number one quite easy to measure the percentage of your population that is in
What we would define as the poverty line and in that one did poorly even make the top 10 I think it did but you’ll notice my what I wanted to show is that you see a number of affluent cities right you’ve got your your Boston’s your Silicon Valley’s your Seattle’s Washington DC
Denver places with really booming economies right now what Richard Florida likes to call the superstar cities so they’re performing very well by that metric look at the right-hand column number 11 Gold 11 the the fabled urban SDG the one that most planners who are interested in the sustainable
Development goals latch on to it’s sort of this is this is our home this is where we want to make something count with this United Nations Global Agenda I find this to be a very interesting set of rankings and not the ones I would have guessed we’re looking at for those
Who are familiar with the United States geography we’re looking at some of the cities and metropolitan areas that are not known for booming economies that are not known for sustainable transportation investments that are not known for having a max styled light rail system allowing you to get around McAllen
Edinburgh Mission Texas so why why did some of the cities that we would not if I pull in the room what are our top sustainable cities in the US why did those end up at the top of the ranking and from from peeling back the hood a
Little bit on their analysis the number one issue was housing affordability so they were using a statistic on how many families are rent burdened and how many homeowners are house burdened and I believe that’s what tipped this measurement so far in favor of cities that we wouldn’t traditionally think of
In the US as quote-unquote sustainable and would promptly wipe the Portland Seattle’s Boston silicon valley’s off the map at least when it comes to go 11 now when you’re weighing all 17 goals that’s where you end up with you know silicon San Jose number one but but looking at
It at this level for me in particular was a very eye-opening exercise in terms of what do we mean when we say sustainability and when we’re trying to measure that at a statistical level we might find some surprising results so as the ascend the four-letter acronym that I highly recommend taking home has
Been working with three cities in the US on piloting local implementation of the SDGs how do you take this large global agreement negotiated by diplomats most of whom have very little knowledge about how City and metropolitan governments and economies work how do you make them relevant
So as the Ascend is working with New York City Baltimore and San Jose on a pilot to in various guises make make this thing this this vast apparatus called the SDGs useful so I’m going to quickly gloss over those three examples as possible angles that you know especially if you’re saying here in
Portland you wanted to see your city latch on to the SDGs you might draw some inspiration from I think the most broad brush or overall architecture would be in New York so the New York City sustainability plan and you know many cities I suspect Portland have sustainability plans that have been
Prepared by planning offices and adopted by my counsel it’s called one NYC and one NYC has essentially retrofitted itself onto the SDG agenda and they describe themselves as a city with global goals and the global goals is a another term SDGs and in-plan are sorry in 1 NYC the different sustainable development goals
Have been mapped on to the sustainability goals for the city so it was a bit of a while we already have an existing template that’s similar to what the SDGs are all about why don’t we just come trying to line up the categories and I think with you know my impression
Is without too much extra lifting New York City was able to turn around and say you know we are working toward the SDGs at a city level I think the most interesting example is from Baltimore so this mural is of a young man named Freddie gray and two years ago he was
Arrested by the Baltimore Police thrown in the back of a paddy wagon and by the time they got to the station he had broken his spine fall into a coma and eventually died that incident sparked the worst riots that Baltimore has faced since the assassination of the Reverend dr. Martin
Luther King jr. in 1968 and led to some serious reckoning in Baltimore about deep divisions mostly around race mostly between black and white and the disproportionate amount of police violence experienced by black Baltimoreans so in Baltimore one of the the a group of the University of Baltimore that runs as a neighborhood
Indicators project where they try to create statistical measurements for individual neighborhoods looked at the SDGs zeroed in on goal 16 access to justice that’s a squishy category that’s a difficult thing to provide a statistical quantifiable measurement on and they wrestled with this they worked with different advocates in Baltimore
Community groups that are pushing for reforms to the criminal justice system and they settled on three the amount of time spent in pre-trial detention that is to say the time from when you’ve been arrested in charge of the crime until the time when you faced a judge or jury
And are tried under the due process you did judicial system of it states if you are poor if you do not have the money to post a bond or bail you sit in jail technically still innocent you are innocent until proven guilty but you still sit in jail it’s
Called pretrial detention and those numbers can get quite high weeks months at a time that a innocent person is nevertheless held in detention so they some of that as an indicator that we as a city of Baltimore can try to reduce if we want to meet the the global standard of the stable
Development Goals and they found it to be a useful rubric to initiate a community-wide conversation about you know how do you measure access to justice post Freddie gray finally the the number one winner in the SDG Index prepared by SDS n as I mentioned was San Jose the Central City in the booming
Economic region known as Silicon Valley and in in this case you’re looking at a community that’s access to a lot of tech talent Stanford University which is the arguably leading institution of higher education for the burgeoning orbitons forget burgeoning you know now leading aspect of the West Coast economy the the
Tech sector you have a lot of smart folks that know how to crunch the numbers and in the case of San Jose their answer to how do we make the SDGs relevant was to create the dashboard and working at a neighborhood level to actually go to census tracks you know
Individual the the smallest unit of measurement under the US census to take different measurements like you know your your miles travel for your commute which would be fitting in under SDG 11 the sustainable cities goal and start to get that data my level so that individual residents in
San Jose could assess how their how their neighborhood even have their their block or you know a really small Geographic unit of measurement is doing and apparently as a wholesaler that is doing quite well but nevertheless when you when you drill down within a metropolitan area you can see where
There are discrepancies where somebody’s doing better where somebody’s not doing so well and that allows for more targeted advocacy efforts that there’s a particular area that you know has really a lot of folks commuting by car you can see that at this more granular level and maybe focus some of your planning and
Advocacy efforts around that so stepping back to a national perspective having looked at those three cities the Urban Institute a think tank in Washington DC has also been trying to wrestle with the the relevance statistically speaking of the SDGs for the United States context and in a report that they released in
Just last month called packing sustainable development goals they actually looked at how we collect data in the United States and compared that to the indicators that have been formally adopted by something called the United Nations Statistical Commission we had the 17 goals and then the 169
Targets and for the last two years or so a group of statisticians from around the world have been debating back and forth and still haven’t quite reached resolution on some of them what indicators at a global scale are we going to use so that every country can compare apples to apples their progress
Toward the SDGs now you can imagine when you have to find a statistical measure that both the US and South Sudan and the People’s Republic of China and Israel can all commonly agree on that they all collect it might not be the most relevant for an individual city like a
Portland and so what what this analysis discovered is that the SDGs I have five four goals that have targets that are really well student to how we collect data in US cities they found that the indicators that have been agreed upon the ones I just described only nineteen
Percent of them can actually be collected in the US with our existing data collection system in the US Census and in NSO there stands for National Statistical Office which again in our case would be the US Census and then finally for five of the goals none of those UN indicators could
Actually be measured here in the United States so when they describe packing s DG’s they the urban is that you really think that we as a country should be modifying coming up with our own set of indicators that work for US cities I mean a good example they gave was for
Air quality which is one of the I believe that’s in goal eleven one of the indicators you know just through I think it’s been a particulate matter based on some global World Health Organization standard it’s just a national data point so having a single statistical measurement for the United States that
Says our average particulate air particulate matter is x tells you absolutely nothing about the difference between smoggy los angeles which according to research i looked into this has the worst average particulate matter and the clean air in the burlington vermont metropolitan statistical area so we
Really need to look at these things in a more granular level for them to have any relevance for us here in the states finally I want to add or conclude on a cautionary if not somewhat somber note this is a story published in US for publication called next city which
Does arguing the best reporting on cities specifically in the United States and it’s about the right-wing fear-mongering campaign around agenda 21 which was a UN kind of precursor to the SDGs that’s now 20 I think 25 years old and once a lot of time this kind of you
Know basically sum it up according to right-wing conspiracy theorists the United Nations is a world government that is trying to take over proper private property rights force everybody off of their homes into Soviet style collective communities ba-ba-ba-ba now this is all easy to stick around except that this is precisely the kind of
Rhetoric that’s currently informing the president of the United States of America and it exactly so what was once right-wing conspiracy theories are now have direct pipeline to the US federal government and so as we’ve already seen the US Senate’s intention to withdraw from the Paris agreement to withdraw
From UNESCO I have yet to see any specific pronouncements on the sustainable development goals which as a as a as an agreement is technically the agenda 2030 so I get to see and that word agenda is one that sets off this particular segment of the American population I’ve yet to see any specific
Indicators or suggestions that the u.s. is going to pull out of the SDGs but when it comes to these global voluntary agreement I think that cities will have to work hard to pick up the slack because our national government is very likely to sort of I think just just drop
The ball if anything not bother answering the annual surveys of how are you doing you know what kind of progress are you making and that makes the work that individual cities are doing all the more important if if we care about this kind of global agreement thank you [Applause]
Hello as Tim said my name is Andrew Potts I’m here on behalf of the Moe’s International Council on monuments and sites Iike Moses an international NGO that works on cultural heritage issues we work through a hundred and thirty-some National Committee’s so for example for the Americans in the room
There’s a thing called USC camos which of the u.s. national committee of eco Mo’s and so it’s quite possible that your city historic preservation officer your state shippo State Historic Preservation officer local and statewide historic preservation officials are members of us Iike most and us Iike most as a member of the International
Organization headquartered in Paris and that’s how we in the cultural heritage sector collaborate globally what I want to talk about cultural heritage in the SDGs and the new urban agenda and because I’m from the cultural heritage sector I want you to think about this topic in particular but you could also
Think about this more generally as just an illustration of the way any given theme is playing out in the context of the SDGs in the new urban agenda Shipra mentioned that SDG goal 11 the urban goal has seven targets there’s a target on public space at a target on
Affordable housing and there’s a target on cultural heritage so this is from the microcosm the perspective of one of those seven targets there are similar processes and discussions and issues unfolding regarding the others the target in the SDGs on cultural heritage specifically says in order to make cities and human settlements sustainable
Resilient safe and inclusive strengthen efforts to protect and safeguard the world’s cultural and natural heritage interesting to note that it tethers natural and cultural heritage which in the u.s. we might call a landscape approach one that tethers cultural and natural heritage together you know for starters it may surprise you that when
The UN General Assembly selected the top of the fold 7 category of endeavor that were most relevant to urban resilience and sustainability one of the seven is cultural heritage cultural and natural heritage up there with affordable housing infrastructure public space I’m gonna in the course of my presentation try to give you some
Insights into why that is but I’ll just say at the outset then it’ll that in a lot of places in the world and particularly a lot of places in the United States the cultural heritage on officials in the Unites States we call them historic preservation officials aren’t living up to the potential of
Heritage embedded in the SDGs in the new urban agenda so at the end I’ll come back to the idea of what will it take to really unlock this potential as has already been said after the SDGs were adopted it came along the new urban agenda in some important ways the new
Urban agenda kind of unpacks and builds out on the SDGs including SDG goal 11 cultural heritage is sort of a cross-cutting theme so it appears in the new urban agenda in a bunch of different places but it you can sort of lump it to you you can aggregate it into about five
Themes and so to my way of thinking you take the one sentence in the SDGs on cultural heritage SDG 11.4 which says urban resilience safety inclusiveness and sustainability can come from more cultural and natural heritage safeguarding you build that out and you get about five modalities five five ways
That that plays out spatial planning employment qualities and jobs inclusive economic growth social cohesion social participation and environmental resilience so what I want to do now is just walk through a couple examples of the way communities around the world some in the US and elsewhere are localizing to use some UN speak are
Trying to realize the potential expected of cultural heritage in the new urban agenda the SDGs in their community I’ll start with spatial planning then I figured that would be the home homely issue for many of you in the room with the new urban agenda says it’s in section 124 is that
Culture should be a priority component of urban play should be embedded in Sony guidelines building codes coastal management policies strategic development policies it also says that the goal of planning should be to promote urban infill and prioritize revitalization of existing urban areas while protecting cultural heritage and preventing sprawl that’s a
New urban agenda 97 section 97 so in the in the US and in a lot of places particularly in the West this if anything is the focus of efforts to leverage cultural heritage historic preservation for sustainability this idea of reusing buildings and so this if at any of these five categories
Americans safer for example we’re to get a high grade it would be at this one I would think but even in this category there remains a tremendous opportunity to better realize the potential of historic buildings and cultural heritage in spatial planning and I want to just
Give an example from the US on this and it’s a project called the Atlas of riordan ISM it’s a project of the US National Trust for Historic Preservation in their green lab what it starts with is the premise that you need to know where your good stock of older and
Historic buildings are to know how to leverage them and second that the existing systems that we have in this country and in most countries for inventory and marks and listing historic buildings is not a good proxy for the stock of older and historic buildings that we have which can be drivers of
Sustainability and economic activity in communities moreover those records tend to be the last to be digitized the last to be incorporated into datasets the last to be mapped spatially in a sense historic preservation is really too important to be left to historic preservationist because we get this result that City Historic Preservation
Offices have enormous amounts of data about the buildings and the heritage in their community none of which is plugged into broader data sets and big data so the Atlas of reorganize ‘m has a thing called a character score which takes aspects of the built environment that have been demonstrated scientist
To promote creativity and gender walkability create social cohesion they overlay it with information of the age of buildings and they create hot spots which are places where their concentrations of high value high social value older buildings that they can guide spatial planning called that atlas of reorganizing and I wanted to give
This example because it brings in a so-called means of implementation a strategy for actually realizing the goals of the new urban agenda that I think is important which is tapping into big data it was mentioned already so that’s just a teaser on spatial planning I’ll move to the second way that
Cultural heritage is figures prominently in the new urban agenda and that’s as a tool of inclusive economic growth so you know in the United States we have this mad dash to host Amazon’s hq2 and this is indicative of a strategy for economic development which is landing out-of-town
Companies it’s a big one we have another strategy that’s common which is tech transfer where you try to capitalize on on new technology for example what this new urban agenda asks is for you to focus on endogenous potentials that’s kind of a fancy word what are you good
At locally already what do people already know how to do where you live what are your local strengths what have you been doing for a hundred or a thousand years that could be capitalized upon for new economic development I’ll give you an example that I was a perfect
Perfect personally involved in this is in the Chia region of Colombia so these women their indigenous peoples and marginalized to some extent have been making have been weaving sisal grass into bags for coffee coffee bags for hundreds of years and now what they’re doing is taking that local tradition in
That local knowledge and making these things which among other things are wall coverings that you find on fancy restaurants and hotels all around the world so you know this is kind of a heartwarming example you may have read about examples like this in other places but what’s interesting to me is the
Question how did this happen who who in Chea was mapping the social values of the community figuring out what people in we are already good about and then marrying that information with people who knew about import-export American product development who’s doing that in your town so it is your Historic
Preservation Office doing that are they aware of the intangible values of the community that have this doggedness potential to use all these fancy buzzwords I I think it’s some points to a huge area of opportunity to huge Eric need in terms of realising the potential of Karadzic in the urban agenda
The next thing new urban agenda spends a lot of time focusing on is employment and how culture and heritage are drivers of decent jobs through create through creativity cultural industries tourism there’s a controversial word tourism which I’m actually not going to talk about too much but it Peaks into my
Presentation at this point and fine arts you see pictures here are two examples of a project in Delhi India the the Nizam Aden initiative which is of the Agra con development network which is a fantastic project the the two best heritage based community revitalization strategies I’ve seen in the world one is
This one in Delhi and the other is I would say in Cincinnati Center City Cincinnati Development Corporation initiative in the over-the-rhine neighborhood so I encourage you to google both of them these people are leveraging traditional crafts and trades for economic development and this is kind of what we think about right this
In tourism when we think about cultural heritage and jobs good jobs but the example I want to share with you is from Scotland from Dundee this is part of the the European Commission’s culture for cities initiative which is looking at how to leverage culture and heritage for
New creative industries so Dundee is a long industrial tradition a long design tradition and so what are the aspects of dundies tradition of industrial design that are relevant to the 21st century and it plays out in gaming iPhone apps computer development and also traditional fine arts so this
Dundee strategy which just got a big award from the European Commission I think is is important example of the way create creativity heritage they say is the crucible of creativity it’s the accumulated intellectual capital of the community leverage for economic development if you’re a spatial planner you might be
Saying well that all sounds good somebody should do that maybe the Arts Commission in my town should do that what does this have to do with me I just want to draw your attention to this study on the Left called older smaller better funded by the US Department of
Energy and the do East funded study found that older historic neighborhoods this is United States focused their spatial qualities the morphology of the buildings the mixture of public and private spaces incubate 21st century creative industries better than any other type of physical layout we found absolute direct correlations between traditional neighborhood settlement
Patterns and 21st century creative creative jobs so I want to just mention that spatial planning dimension the second to last way that cultural heritage figures prominently in the stds in the new urban agenda is this idea of social cohesion how do you knit together disparate communes of your community how
Do you break down inequality how do you get the people to function together cohesively and with migration climate refugees the stress is put on communities by climate change a host of issues there’s questions of how do you hold the people together as a polity and how do you integrate newcomers and
Longtime residents and the like is quite important I could have picked a lot of examples but I wanted to pick one from the US because I think sometimes people kind of outsource Americans outsource this is kind of an issue for foreign countries and I also wanted to give you
An example that has a spatial planning dimension so at the bottom is the San Antonio Texas at the bottom left you see downtown tonio could be a lot of North American cities at the top you see the San Antonio missions which are sort of the heart to beating heart of San Antonio
These iconic missions set up by the Spanish colonial officials in the 17th century so so important they were recently inscribed on the world heritage list only 23 sites in the US are on the world heritage list and this is the latest u.s. inscription you you might think that they were inscribed on the
World heritage list because of their architecture or maybe because one of the seven is the Alamo and the Battle of the Alamo was consequential in the hips in global history those were all proposed and they were rejected by the World Heritage Committee as basis for inscription the thing that the World
Heritage Committee found to be about standing universal value with this mission are the intangible qualities that arose when Spanish and indigenous cultures mixed and created one of the birthplaces of Latino culture so San Antonio this mission phenomenon in 17th century the mixing of indigenous and Western peoples is a is a driver of
Creation the Latino culture and so the values that are important about the San Antonio missions are what the world heritage inscription calls the creative energy from the confluence of cultures so fine these can inscribe a hundred million dollar tourism boon to San Antonio because of the world heritage
Description and a requirement imposed by the inscription that there be zoning overlays that conserve the heritage values this is a condition of getting inscribed you have to agree to specially protect the special things you have so San Antonio zoning overlay they’re in their Building Code processes all focus
On the built environment design review but the key values of this inscription are not that are tethered to the built environment but ultimately are not the built environment they’re the intangible values that come from this creative mixing of cultures and so how do you start to take account of these
Incredibly values so valuable cultural traditions that they are along the World Heritage List as such and are driving a hundred million dollars of new tourism in design review permitting zoning overlay so the mayor of San Antonio can thing called living heritage symposium which asked this which ask stakeholders
To begin to think about how to incorporate a recognition and a conservation of these intangible values these social traditions into design permitting and building review and you see here lots of people busy at a charrette scribbling on pieces of paper to do that so I think it gives you a
Sense of how this this how this sense that we I think probably all have that culture and heritage can bring people together how does it now play out on the landscape okay and finally what I’ll call ecological or environmental resilience this is chalked throughout the new urban agenda asking
People to try to break down their silos between regulating nature and culture to look at the interdependence of ecological and social functions of the land ecosystem based solutions that recognize that people are in the ecosystem looking at consumption and production patterns and this role of culture in music resiliency and climate
Change adaptation there’s a lot that could be said about this I want to just show you these two examples that they have nothing to do the ones on the Left I know they do on the right the ones on the left are also from Delhi this is the
Oldest step well there’s a lot of notoriety about these India stepwells this is the only functioning one left in Delhi it was built in the 14th century it was not repaired meaningfully for 700 years so 700 years later a zero carbon infrastructure solution that was still basically working thus according to the
City of Delhi the water quality was as good as if it’s around elsewhere it then did get get a major cleaning that’s what you see here the only one in 700 years but so the question is how do you valorize traditional technology traditional infrastructure traditional knowledge in contemporary planning do
You automatically assume that everything is old is bad needs to be replaced that there’s nothing we can learn from a thousand years of living successfully in the spots where we live or can you mainstream traditional technology and traditional knowledge into content you’re planning on the right my final
Example this is from the United States this is New Orleans this is south of New Orleans this is the Ile jean-charles it’s the first city in the United States to be moved in whole planned relocation because of climate change so sea-level rise making this place untenable unfit for human habitation
There are now eleven cities towns in the US on a list to be relocated there will be hundreds according to the UNF Triple C 300 million people will have to be moved in the next 30 years because they live in places that are untenable for human said oh they will become untenable
For human settlement right now in the United States this is treated as a refugee problem you and your family need to go somewhere else but that that diaspora scatters the community it destroys the cultural capital community it obliterates their intangible heritage from their traditions this is a HUD
Demonstration project to move the town in in total to another place it’s the first one the United States hopefully a prototype and what we see right throughout this is the way that called once you actually start to move people culture becomes culture and heritage becomes a gigantic driver of the success
Or failure of these projects and we know this from dam mega dam projects also but the advent of climate change making planned relocation a gigantic planning problem and the role of culture existential to the successful moving of people okay so I’m gonna stop there and
Try to give you a flavor of the way that cultural heritage one of the transversal issues that’s in the SD jeez is playing out its potential its opportunities I just leave you with a question and that is how many of these axes of Heritage how many of these nodes of value are
Being realized in your own community how many of you have status toward preservation officers or HP OS that are focusing on these aspects of your community’s heritage Greg mentioned the one New York initiative to map New York City’s comprehensive plan against the SDGs Gregor if you looked at it it says
Eleven point four it says n/a and I like us s DSN but that’s par for the course in my experience with that so I I hope you do well not from a come from a community where this jacket where’d this gigantic swath of the new
Urban agenda gets an na and I thank you for your time [Applause] well thank you to all three excellent presentations so as chair of the APA international division I think of my role as explaining to you what APA is doing and what our division is doing relative to the SDGs and the Durban
Agenda and to use that background to encourage you and your organization’s to also think about how you might relate to the SDGs what you might be doing like what you could do in terms of pilot projects or research or education to further the SDGs which as I think our speakers have demonstrated are
Applicable to US cities in a voluntary way there’s no rule saying you have to but I think getting onto the the International bandwagon with SDGs and the NDA is a really positive thing to do for planners so in in this presentation which I’ll I’ll try to shorten them
Somewhat because we’re just a little bit behind I’m gonna try and do three things one is as I’m suggesting we view what APA is doing has has done so far and is continuing to do and then second and third parts are about research projects which APA and in particular the
Divisions Council and our division our sponsoring or could be sponsoring one is about planning for livable communities for all ages and the other one is about regional planning and how that might relate to the SDGs so the Quito Ecuador conference of habitat 3 in October 2016 APA was very
Involved in leading up to that planning for it as well as participating in it we spent APA money to send four of us there as the official delegation I was one of those people as well as our executive director the president of the membership and our international our full-time
Staff international director but there were a lot of other APA members that I met while I was there we participated in various sessions gave talks and we had a booth very large boot that we shared with the global planners network which is Luis assemblage of 30 or more planning associations from other
Countries as well as with our allied planning design organizations like the American Institute of Architects he’s my doctor hopefully nothing serious so we had a booth with them and with a SOA and AIA then you know in terms of the preparation for that it’s been a very collaborative process we we have been
Through mainly Jeff Sol our international director who cannot make it today I’m actually substituting for him he was involved in the world urban campaign the global Assembly of partners habitat professionals forum I will I get into a lot of definitions but these are all different kind of components or elements of the overall
SDG development process the nu8 process and we used our APA policy guides as one basis for our input one of the the main outputs of that was the city we need which fed into the new urban agenda so the kinds of things that we’re doing fall into just a few
Categories public awareness information to our members please see the web page Jeff soul doesn’t what he calls a blog that keeps you up to date on habitat three related issues and topics it’s actually an excellent place to go for information education through conferences and webinars like this conference upcoming the world Town
Planning Day which is an online conference on November 8th Wednesday there’ll be six or seven sessions they’ll be pre-recorded this year you’ll see this session which is being pre-recorded now on that on that day and then the research projects which I already mentioned so part two of the presentation on living communities for
All ages there’s been like a divisions council initiative that’s a few years old where we looked at this topic from a us-centric basis and now the international components of APA and AARP are collaborating with another partner of over Arup is one of our division partners we’re all providing in-kind
Support plus staff support from our various our respective organizations and we have a $7000 research grant from the divisions Council it’s not a lot of money but it’s a start and the project is basically kind of a initial phase which will report out at the national planning conference in New Orleans in
April two thousand 18 but we hope that it will lead to further phases but the the basis for the international look at this topic is that our counterparts in Europe and East Asia are actually ahead of us on the age curve so by 2030 here in the US over 20% of our
Population will be 65 or older and most of those people would prefer to age in you know remain in their communities and you hear a lot about retiring to Florida that it’s not happening to the extent you might hear people talking about it we all end up ultimately making more
Conservative decisions about where we’re going to live and while we talk about aging as perhaps a principal focus of this research on the other hand if you are accommodating people and there exist retiring people and their existing communities it’s good for children and for young families as
Well so you get into the the related topic of multi-generational planning so we’re thinking although the Europeans are ahead of us and they have perhaps more immediate lessons and case studies and best practices to share with us ultimately this is a topic that you know
We assume or we hope will be a two-way street in terms of the flow of best practices and so forth but how is it related to the sustainable development goals well goal number 11 which is encapsulating the new urban agenda makes explicit reference to accommodating older persons and sustainable transport
Systems and sustainable green public spaces the new urban agenda itself recognizes the importance of planning for all ages with 27 different references to each friendly planning so the idea the project is to firstly find out what are the best practices for engaging planners to think about this in a mainstream kind of
Their everyday planning not as something that you know they look at some research documents somewhere or they’ll do on a one-off basis but to making them too mainstream this into local planning and then beyond that as I mentioned to find best practices lessons learned case studies from overseas and that’s how
We’ve actually structured the project Jumping ahead a little bit as I promised so a world town planning day the first session that morning which is time so that Europeans can view it as well we’ll have a pre-recorded session on this topic and it’ll end with an invitation to go to a questionnaire to
Fill out on engagement the engagement process and at the end of that question you’re going to be invited to go to another questionnaire or a template to fill out if you have access to best practices that you’re willing to share and then we’ll over the coming months
Crunch all that data we believe we’ll have another webinar sometime in February to sort of begin to report out and to to fine-tune our results and then during the the National Conference in New Orleans will give a report on this initial phase and make recommendations for follow-up phases and in the meantime
There are as you made that may be aware some new efforts by APA to create community portals for sharing information tools and things like that techniques methodologies and the resource knowledge base which ultimately planners not just the staff will be able to put up like best practices case studies that’ll be hopefully an
Interactive kind of resource for our results you want it more information you can email me my emails their or Stephanie Firestone who is the AARP project manager oh yeah and the lot of this information these slides by the way I’m gonna make available at the international divisions web page on the
APA website for this whole session so you can get a lot of this information that way just very quickly the the other project and there’s some useful websites here is about Regional Planning which I know in Portland regional planning is important you guys are a model pioneer
And regional planning in the US I’m a regional planner by background by training and I did a sort of a thorough review I think a thorough review of the SDGs in any way and I think that regional planning isn’t to emphasize that it’s not a big surprise the new
Urban agenda of course is about cities not necessarily about regions there are a lot of SDGs that sort of could be read as implying that regional planning would be a good way to to accomplish to meet those SDGs but there but it’s not terribly explicit so if you are a
Regional planner and you’re interested in applying the SDGs and and you can do that you know it’s voluntary and you can you know every country is being encouraged or every cities being encouraged to customize the stds to their own needs so i think what might be needed and what i’m encouraging the
Regional planning division of APA is to work with us and potentially other divisions to do a follow on to what might have seen a recent pas report called called emerging trends and planning’s an excellent report pretty recent pretty comprehensive and so I’m recommending that but it was being
Developed kind of in parallel with the SDG so it’s not terribly informed by the SDGs so I’m what I’m proposing is divisions council research grant again small that is a start to overlay the SDGs on this regional planning their their recommendations about methodologies and so forth and I think
That’ll be a useful exercise and in the process they should be considering the UN habitats urban and territorial planning guidelines which do an excellent job of showing how the different scales of geography can be integrated in in planning so I’ll I’ll end it there and I’m really looking
Forward so that so there’s much more presentation on that last research project idea that you can get from the slides so further to this at the back of the room there is a one-page stack of one-page brochures or Flyers on the the planet for all ages project and a few of
Our division brochures you can visit our website which is right here and then i’ve given again the block jeff soles block for more information as well as my email so what i’ve been talking about and everybody here has been about it’s just a prelude to what you as planners and your organization’s your
Agencies could or should do and ask any question you want but I’m hoping we’ll get creative and get some feedback from the audience so please so what questions do you have yes sir it was the feeling that everybody nobody can object to that I mean the new urban agenda and that’s why
We called mom and apple pie yeah that’s fine but I never read some some articles say from the alt-right the thing around the system and they completely renounced SDGs and the new urban agenda as a kind of communist and I think it’s spreading there is there is a kind of contra movements who
Say no one this is liberal stuff we want just free markets or individual freedom all this these ideas are actually two locust in a system that would say constrain so in this climate see what is your organization doing to weigh on the public debate so you talk mainly about
The US or other countries as well other countries as well but I think it’s mostly physical now on the international scene yeah sure put the question back and ask what if anything you’re seeing in Europe I mean it’s quite clear here what that looks like in the United
States but in in Europe is something like congestion pricing for automobiles or you know smaller denser housing are there I’m well aware in the US at least a multimedia the media of a rising right wing around in Europe but how if at all of them affecting common sense land use planning
And city planning and precepts I would love to ask you that I mean are you seeing a pushback against new urban agenda style urbanism in Europe from the old range in Europe Actually national greens okay let me let me answer let me answer it real quick and then we need to get to other questions but and this will be a partial answer that APA regularly develops communication tools to combat against sort of ignorance about what planners do and what our value is so
That’s in general about planning and those those tools are disseminated throughout the membership and secondly we have a policy and advocacy director based in our Washington office who regularly lobbies Congress I mean we’re an organization that is legally able to lobby Congress and so we don’t focus on
Changing the president’s mind set or the administration’s mind set but we we do lobby Congress and I believe we also Lobby to some extent various you know relevant departments like Housing and Urban Development and so forth about these topics now having said as much I don’t think that yet we have addressed
The sustainable development goals on those levels I know we have collaborated with the international departments of like Housing and Urban Development who were involved in the SDGs development process but I think the the main answer your question is what we’re doing is we’re focusing on planners in cities in
Towns and counties and so forth and not on you know in the national government and this is where the US I think is able to hold itself a little higher it’s not necessarily on national policies but in the end ultimately I think will do well on sustainable development because the
Cities you know they know that they need to do this even once as conservative as Houston and slack of Zoning for decades and decades now realizes the importance of you know good planning so next question we have I way is scale right you know good question is cheaper do you have some
Thoughts on that question I mean in terms of you know yeah I was I’m smiling when you said that we’re still defining sustainable development based on a big 1987 definition provided by the Brooklyn Commission but I still think that in terms of its its concept and its it’s
Touching you know different contexts I think that definitions still stays very very valid you know addressing the needs of the present without compromising the needs of the future with economic social and environmental we’ve never really been able to move away from that triangle of economic social environment because this is really the fundamental
In terms of the interaction you know but I do agree with you that that definition or I would say the definition the concept of sustainable development needs to be contextualized I think what Craig was showing us was you use different metrics and you get different results
And it’s up to you to really as a community as a city as a place as a country to decide which are the most important dimensions of development for you and then what are the indicators that you use to measure them and also what are the capacities
You have to collect it against those indicators because a lot of the times we had these ideal set of indicators but there is no viability there is no baseline there is no capacity to collect those indicators and then there is no capacity to do something with that data
That’s the other thing you collect a lot of data and it becomes meaningless you really don’t have the capacity to to process it and feed it back into the your policymaking system so I think in that respect yes we need a lot of contextualization which is why you know
We’re constantly talking to national agencies and regional bodies and other organizations to say make this your own really make this your own by by you know putting layering your context over pulling out the most important issues fully not the most important metrics and see what you can do with it so that’s
Really very much our priority very much our agenda yes Andrew could you repeat the question in summary form okay the the question was about how you can incorporate intangible heritage or social heritage into planning for places and a it’s an excellent question I I can give you a United States specific answer although I think this has put love in a lot of
Places and and that is that the process that we use right now for inventory heritage assets and then incorporating that data into planning is 50 years old we’re working on the model of the National Stroke Preservation Act of 1966 and the National Register of Historic Places which was created as a planning
Tool the impetus for creating the National Register was to identify the location of built heritage so that it can be taken account of in highway building and dams but what we know from a half a century of practice is a couple of things one that the standards for
Listing on the National Register not a good proxy for what people value about the built environment their community and second that some of the key drivers of quality of life social cohesion replaced a sense of place are intangible without tangible so a fifty-year-old system that’s still mostly done with
Paper pen that only looks at landmarks and doesn’t take account of intangibles is not optimized for realizing the potential so what do you do well to to thicky things that came out of that symposium in which I think people are finding there are lots of places is that
It we need a supplement or inventory landmarks with a broader process of mapping values so how do you map the values of your community what do people love and treasure value of other community tangible and intangible a subset of which are we listed mountains on but the broader list is is important
Data that values mapping process has to be stakeholder driven right now in many places in the United States somebody with a master’s degree from a school or historic preservation comes into your town and tells you what architectural landmarks you have and that’s your heritage if the process of deciding what the
Community’s heritage is is not inclusive then the output won’t be a driver of participation and inclusion and so stakeholder driven processes facilitated by experts we’re all members of the community including new arrivals and marginalize peoples and to say what they value about the community using that
Output as a as a mapping of social values and then starting to incorporate that into planning documents in parallel with 106 National Register and new hypotheses I think art is the way the future take one more question and then we’ll call it quits yes sir my example I just recently retired from
The background but I’m interested in how to engage well join the international division and send me and send me an email with your resume yes please join I said more than that I think it’s important there are many networks out there that are you know civil society or
Professionals this you know there’s the habitat professionals forum that’s doing a lot of work on human settlements there was that generate some new partners that were set up for habitat free you know really yeah you can send us an email but if you just go on some of these websites
And see how these different constituency’s are aligning themselves I so carp is a member of separate them so is APA and it’s international division there is there is there along these networks that you should get engaged to it and you could get engaged with which offer opportunities for both learning
And giving I think that’s something that we very very highly welcome while we would be happy to have you be involved in our sort of national and international efforts my bias would be given everything we’ve said here today to find a way to get involved locally if
You’re from Portland and you know that might be the most effective in the end well thank you very very much again took the international division webpage and the slides from all four of us will be up within a week or two you
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