Title:Reducing Flood Risk with Naturally Resilient Communities
به مکالمه جو دی آنجلیس از APA و نیت ویوود، که به عنوان مدیر پروژه کاهش خطر و تاب آوری برای برنامه آب آمریکای شمالی حفاظت از طبیعت خدمت می کند، گوش دهید. جو و نیت در کنفرانس برنامه ریزی ملی ۲۰۱۷ در شهر نیویورک به بحث درباره پروژه جوامع انعطاف پذیر طبیعی پرداختند، که نقش راه حل های مبتنی بر طبیعت را در کمک به کاهش خطر سیل ترویج می کند. به دنبال راه حل های مبتنی بر طبیعت و مطالعات موردی مرتبط پروژه های موفق برای کمک به جامعه خود برای یادگیری بیشتر و شناسایی راه حل ها هستید؟ راهنما را دریافت کنید: http://nrcsolutions.org/
درباره پروژه بیشتر بدانید: https://www.planning.org/nationalcenters/hazards/naturallyresilient/ (برچسب‌ها برای ترجمه
قسمتی از متن فیلم: Hello my name is Jody Angeles I’m a research associate with ApS hazards planning Center today I’m joined by Nate y OD who’s the project manager for North American Risk Reduction and resilience with the Nature Conservancy it’s a mouthful so today we’re gonna be talking a bit about the naturally resilient
Communities project which we think here at EPA is a pre vital resource in the use of green infrastructure especially in integrating that more into the planning process yeah before we get to that do you mind telling us a bit about you know your work with the Nature Conservancy where that overlaps a bit
With you know planning and resilience yeah absolutely the Conservancy a few years ago really recognized the importance of informing the decisions that communities make as they start to deal with the impacts of climate change if you put a wall between the water and the the buildings are trying to protect
Eventually the water meets them the wall and you lose everything in between and so that was sort of the beginning of our realization that we need to be playing in this resilience space and and so what we do is we work to promote the role of nature how can marshes reduce flooding
How can dunes stop the storm surge that’s coming in or how do rivers if they’re allowed to move naturally allow you to enjoy a more natural river experience while also seeing less flooding in your community and so my job is to work with community across the country and serve as resource for our
Chapters we’re in 50 chapters we’re in over 60 countries around the world and so we serve as a resource to help communities and help our staff on the ground actually start to implement project great yeah so APA is one of six partners to think on this project which
Tell me a bit more about the development of the project you know where the ideas came from yeah absolutely this is we certainly weren’t the first ones to be thinking about the role of nature and it was it was great it was served this amazing energy to see that
Everybody was really on the same page and wanting to push these ideas and so when we talked to you folks the APA we also talked to Association of state floodplain managers the American Society of Civil Engineers in the National Association of counties and in that group together we really
Were trying to replicate what the decision-making was like at the municipal level when someone decides to make a project like this so how does a mayor actually decide to pursue a project that involves nature but what we realized was that we needed to communicate these ideas clearly and in a
Very short amount of time yeah and so we wanted to reach out and make sure there was a design firm involved and so Sasaki came on board to help bring sort of a design perspective and that group altogether has really done an amazing job of both giving us a sense of all the
Different things that go on with each of these different roles but then distilling down what are the important pieces of information as one needs to know and how do we get it out yeah the use of green infrastructure it’s a pretty popular thing these days can you
Talk a bit about the general benefits and drawbacks that are associated with it that this tool is you know sort of envisioned to to try to fix yeah a lot of times if you were to use a more traditional approach to you address flooding you’re building something that
Is gonna be working maybe one or two times a year yeah and when we talk about green infrastructure really what we’re trying to talk about is what’s the everyday reality of your community and so if you are investing in a park that can flood when it needs to you have that
Place that retains water and reduces flooding but you also have a park the rest of the year right and so the benefits start to you start to see the benefits when you think about all the other things that a community needs to to address public health economic development creating
Those areas for serve gathering and social cohesion now the challenge is that while we as in in sort of the professional sphere and the plane sphere getting very comfortable with the idea of green infrastructure in a stormwater context yep and a water quality context the idea of big flooding events is still
Really a tough nut to crack yeah and and so it’s both a it’s a challenge to start to socialize the idea make sure that people are comfortable with it but it’s also it takes a difference on a skill to think about this if you tell an engineer to build a wall they’ll they’ll
Build a wall to the exact specifications when you’re talking about natural systems it’s just a different type of approach yeah and so there’s still there’s still some hurdles to overcome and in really starting to see the widespread adoption of green infrastructure but we have success stories that we can point to yeah and
And we’re very excited about those and we’re seeing more and more all over the country so I mean I assume that this is sort of where that the project comes in you know there’s these issues of cost there’s issues of communication with other members of local government other
People who are working in the the spheres of you know engineering and that sort of work so I mean would you tell me a bit more about you know the various techniques and case studies that are that are on the website that actually get to the root of you know this problem
Yeah yeah what we what we heard when we talked a lot of people was don’t build in just another tool right and so what we wanted to do is actually serve servers like the introductory chapter yeah how do we bring people gently into this idea and and then connect them to
Other resources that would be helpful down the road and so what the site contains is 30 strategies and they range in scale from something as simple as a rain garden that you could do on just a city street corner to a setback levee where you’re talking about miles and
Miles and miles of construction or or moving a levee back and what we try to do is focus on basically any type of water whenever there is water in a place you don’t want it to be how do you as a community figure out a way to deal with
It so there’s solutions in there that address River flooding address coastal flooding they address erosion and stormwater and what we the the other thing we wanted to provide in all this was we wanted it to be real and so there are a lot of ideas that are out there
And we wanted to provide some evidence that this was happening right so we currently have a body of 22 case studies and those case studies represent most if not all the strategies that we have and they’re drawn from around the country and their stories like in downtown Nashville where they had a
Brown field it was a sort of undeveloped Ellul area and it kept flooding and the community said hey let’s go in let’s clean it up let’s actually make an asset right here on the river and so they built a waterfront park it’s designed to flood in high water but it now has
Amphitheater it is a place that people go on a daily basis and it is driving economic development it is driving this or a revitalization of the area and that’s just one of many stories I mean and they range again this the stories range from something as simple as a
Community New Jersey deciding that they wanted to restore their dunes and just going out and putting trees and putting in snow fencing to collect sand over time and actually plant they’re doing serve that that initiative from the very community level to massive projects along whole river systems in the Pacific
Northwest great do you have an ideal you know use case scenario for a planner or practitioner to actually use this kind of work because I mean there are other there are other tools out there but you know in conversations with planners that we’ve had you know a lot of people don’t
Necessarily know how to or you’re not they’re not as intuitive as they as they might have wished so yeah we sort of have three goals when we built this we wanted it to be easy we wanted it to communicate the value of natural systems and nature in general it’s not solely
Just you know forests and trees but it’s also living shorelines or things where you can allow the natural process to continue but you still are getting that protection and and then we also want it to be sort of designed to inspire the imagination and the reason I say that is
For a planner what we’ve seen is most planners are intuitively get this idea right you think about the way the community connects you think about the pieces of community in a way that seems to naturally embrace this now and so the way we want we hope that planners might
Use it is actually to give them some tools to promote this to the people at the end of the day who are making those decisions on which project design goes for yeah and and so we’ve done a few things in the tool including created we want it
To be only three or four clicks to get to a strategy that would work we want it to be highly searchable so that you could go through and change the criteria and sort of identify something that can work for you we also wanted to make it
Both virtual and real world and so you can print out each of the strategies you can print out each of the case studies in a two page two pager and you can go and take it and put on someone’s desk and say hey this is the thing I want
Yeah and in our sense is that it’s a way to really give you a shortcut to get to the conversation you want to have and hopefully then use it to start to promote that vision that that we think planners sort of bring to the table as
This is the future of the city we want to see absolutely great well I mean we’re sort of close to the end now um is there anything else you kind of want to you want to add to this I I just think it’s been really exciting to see how
This project has taken off and we’re now hearing literally from around the world from Indonesia we’ve we’ve been contacted by the World Bank we’ve been contacted by folks here in in the US in the US government to figure out how they can connect to this work so we think we’ve hit on something
Important here and as we go forward we’re really trying to figure out what the shape of what comes next is and we’re trying to solicit ideas from folks about what they need to promote these ideas at the end of the day we at the Nature Conservancy think these are good
Ideas I think you guys at American Planning Association think these are good ideas but it’s the folks on the ground and in those communities where they don’t have all the resources to do what they do in New York that really need that opportunity to to see it real
And so we would encourage people get in touch with us and seek out the site and explore it and let us know how we can make it better great thanks well we should mention that the the website is NRC Solutions org and yeah it’s it’s easily reachable from
There I think it’ll be a good experience for planners and like Nate said we’re getting a lot of great feedback on it so hey thanks for your time we appreciate you so much thank you
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Time: 1513095062
Date: 2017-12-12 19:41:02
Duration: 00:11:30
